Is "interfaith" an idea whose time has passed?

source: Stephen Law tweet
Tom Flynn of Center For Inquiry, USA says...
"On my view, those of us in the movement who are not comfortable with the "religious humanist" identifier should not be seeking entry to interfaith events. Instead, we should be boycotting them, then demanding something more inclusive in their place.
"When they say interfaith, they really mean interfaith." Really, though, who should find this surprising? Sometimes words mean what they say. Dictionary.com defines interfaith as "relating to, between, or involving different religions." Why should non-religious people want, much less expect, to be included in an event whose stated scope is only to bring together representatives of different religions? Why should atheists and hard secularists who actively disdain religion want to play any part in something like that?" 
"I don't appear on interfaith panels anymore. When invited, my stock reply is "Sorry, this is an event for representatives of various religions, and I do not represent a religion. When you plan an event that's not narrowly restricted to persons of faith, be sure to call me." 
"In my view, it's the real message of inclusiveness that most of us in the movement should be emphasizing -- a message we cannot credibly send while some of us are begging to be included onstage alongside the priests, ministers, rabbis, and imams." 
There's a popular impression that "interfaith" is the acme of inclusiveness, that when you want to stage an event that's designed to encompass an entire community, an interfaith observance is the way to go. That impression is decades out of date, and more of us ought to be saying so. Because an interfaith event embraces only members of religions, and does so frankly and openly, in a nation where twenty percent of adults don't belong to any religion, "interfaith" is not the last word in inclusivity. Interfaith events, by definition, exclude twenty percent of American adults. They exclude a third of the young." 
"If, after some traumatic event such as the Boston bombings, officials want to hold an event that includes everyone, from now on they need to do better than interfaith. They need to develop events that do not draw most of their architecture from religious services that no longer speak to the identities and aspirations of one adult American in five. Except in situations where representatives of different churches legitimately do want to just talk to one another -- wrangling out differences in how they interpret the Bible, or some such -- "interfaith" is an idea whose time has passed." 
"Of course, it's difficult to maintain that principled position when you're begging for grudging admission to what amounts to the back seat on the church bus." 
"To my mind, leaders of atheist and secular humanist and other strong-freethinker groups shouldn't complain that they are being excluded from interfaith events. They shouldn't campaign to get in. No, we should stay out even when asked, and use whatever spotlight that casts our way to press the argument that in a nation that is home to growing numbers of post-religious men and women, real inclusion demands something way better than an interfaith event ... something that is radically more inclusive than a church service with the points of doctrinal disagreement sanded down." 
"Traditional believers acknowledge the pain of loss, but cover it over with the ointment of beliefs in the afterlife. Unbelievers are confronting a starker reality: the deceased is truly, achingly gone and will never, ever be seen again. To put it more flippantly than I probably should, when believers and unbelievers sit side by side at a memorial event, they are two discrete groups doing two very different things. The unbelievers are there to say "Good-bye forever"; the believers are there to say "See you later." I don't know if it will ever make sense to try to achieve two such disparate objectives at a single event."

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West Dorset Humanists April meeting

WDHThe next West Dorset Humanists meeting will take place at Wessex Royale Hotel, 32 High St West, Dorchester DT1 1UP at 7.30 on Tuesday, 23rd April. 

In ‘Filmosophy’, Mat Cousell will be talking to us about moral and ethical dilemmas in modern films - a Humanist take on Hollywood!

Entry is free but we would appreciate a voluntary donation of £2.

 

Money That Works :Creating A Sustainable Economic System

MoneyThatWorks Saturday 11th May 2.00pm 
Moordown Community Centre, Coronation Avenue, Moordown Bournemouth BH9 1TW

A presentation by independent financial expert Stef Kling

The credit crunch, bank bailouts, the European debt crisis, quantitative easing, and austerity measures fill the news but where do we go from here?

Independent financial expert Stef Kling believes there are major flaws in our current financial system, and calls into question our current obsession with continuous economic growth.

In this presentation, he will outline inspiring alternative financial models, explaining why we need radical changes and a move to sustainable economic systems.

Join us to discover the issues causing our current economic problems and hear Stef Kling’s vision of how we can create sustainable prosperity.

Free entry (donations appreciated).     Everyone welcome!

Please help us promote Dorset Humanists and this event by displaying an A4 poster. Download an A4 printable copy here, or email Dave at DHcensus(at)hotmail.co.uk for a PDF.

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Science and Religion: Complementary or Contradictory

Science&Religion2 Wednesday 24th April 7.30pm
The Green House Hotel,  4 Grove Road, Bournemouth BH1 3AX

A presentation by government scientist, David Nunn

Since the enlightenment, science has relentlessly marched into territories formerly occupied by religion.

Particle physicist, outspoken atheist, and author, Victor Stenger states, “Scientists have practical reasons for wishing that religion and science be kept separate”. In this interactive session, David will investigate whether these apparently conflicting worldviews can be reconciled. He will consider the origins and evolution of both worldviews, and offer some fun approaches to resolving this problem. We hope this will produce interesting results, and perhaps even provide an answer to this age old dilemma!

Join us for “a great opportunity to open our minds to different ways of approaching this often controversial subject”

Free entry (donations appreciated).     Everyone welcome!

(The Green House Hotel can also be accessed from Gervis Road, which is better lit and has roadside parking).

Please help us promote Dorset Humanists and this event by displaying an A4 poster. Download an A4 printable copy here, or email Dave at DHcensus(at)hotmail.co.uk for a PDF.

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April Bulletin

DW 6298984 (crop) In this month's Bulletin we're reminded just how precarious human freedoms are as yet another case of people being arrested for the 'crime' of atheism arises - this time in Bangladesh. 

Also this month, a review of AC Grayling's new book on Humanism, a surprise encounter with Bertrand Russell's daughter, profiles of our two new committee members, plus a great round-up of stimulating and sociable events.  

Many membership subscriptions are due at this time of year so please renew when your current annual membership expires. You can renew here online, at meetings, or with a membership form. Thank you for helping to support our group’s activities in this tangible way.

As always, we look forward to seeing you at forthcoming events.

David Warden
Chair, Dorset Humanists

PS.  Don't forget that the British Humanist Association (BHA) is now able to give local Humanist group members a special offer if you are joining for the for the first time.  The special offer is 18 months membership of the BHA for the price of 12 months.  If you would like to take the BHA up on this offer contact us for details of how to take advantage of this special offer.*

*This offer is only available to local group members who are joining the BHA for the first time. If new members choose to pay their membership fee by monthly direct debit they will pay nothing for the first 6 months, and then pay £3 per month.